metal/ggml: keep q4_0 decode on the mat-vec kernel up to 8 rows#2369
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The q4_0 matrix-vector kernel is bandwidth-bound on the weight read and stays cheaper than the tiled GEMM up to ~8 activation rows, but the dispatcher switched to GEMM at m>4, making 5-8-row q4 decode (batched or speculative) needlessly slow. Raise the q4 mat-vec row cap to 8; f16/f32 stay at 4. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.8 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Depends on #2366 (
perf/metal-ggml-f16-roundtrip) and is stacked on it — please merge #2366 first. Until then this PR's diff includes #2366's commit; it collapses to the single threshold change once #2366 lands.The q4_0 matrix-vector kernel is bandwidth-bound on the weight read and stays cheaper than the tiled GEMM up to ~8 activation rows, but the dispatcher switched to GEMM at
m > 4, so 5–8-row q4 decode (batched, or speculative / lookahead) paid the full GEMM cost for no gain. This raises the q4 mat-vec row cap to 8; f16/f32 stay at 4.Perf
Forward-pass latency, Qwen3-1.7B q40ef16, Metal (Apple M-series), 256-token past, median ms/pass:
The 5–8-row band now lands on the mat-vec path (m=6: −26% vs #2366). Single-token decode (m=1) and prefill (m≥12) are unchanged. Downstream this turns k=4 speculative decoding on Qwen3-1.7B from a slowdown (~0.81×) into a ~1.19× speedup, and benefits any small-batch q4 decode.
The crossover (8) is measured on Apple GPUs and would ideally be device-tuned.
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